O: "Reading Steiner!?" However, this is all happening in an "inactive" world line. In 2036, it was clarified that the world was constructed of things called "Attractor Fields", which describe the extent of world line convergence. K: "You don't have to take them seriously." I think just like how Suzuha's act of traveling to the past could not change the world's attractor field in the Alpha world lines, because even her act has a cause and effect and is caught in the convergence. I just want to get things straight, but this is the truth, right? Due to the fact that Okabe has holes in his memory, it’s hard to know much about this Attractor Field. Camouflage so that SERN wouldn't target me. Most notable is at the start of the story we are already within the time loop. I think they're essentially the same thing, but why do you seem so intent on saying they're different? In it, neither World War III nor the Time Travel Dystopia come to pass and both Okabe’s relationships and the personalities of his friends remain intact. World lines are like an infinite number of rivers flowing parallel. John Titor posted: The vast majority of Steins;Gate 0 is set in the Beta Attractor Field. So, Suzuha traveled from 0.000000% in 2036. This causes to Rintaro to start confusing the memories he has from all the WorldLines where he had to travel to get to the Steins;Gate. In this attractor field, Okabe invents time travel and SERN finds out about it. Just judging by the phenomenon you described, I would say what you accomplished is indeed changing the past. However, it probably wouldn't change any more than about 0.000002%. It is, after all, a subjective, relative measurement, not an absolute. In the case that the effect portion is changed, the accompanying cause is changed so it doesn't fail. 689 Name: JOHN TITOR : 07/28/2010 23:31:58 — Infinity. By the way, this is actually the second time this phenomenon has happened. Can she be saved? Click the tabs for content. The Steins Gate worldline is a worldline that lies between the Alpha and Beta Attractor Fields, and is unaffected by either. http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2019/ conversation going on in the anime series page, Okabe's reasoning in thinking that he has already seen the time machine on July 28th so he must have gone back then, http://ibm5100.net/steinswiki/2011/09/19/steinsgate-episode-23-open-the-steinsgate-qa/, http://ibm5100.net/steinswiki/2011/09/23/steinsgate-episode-24-acheivementpoint-qa/, http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2009/, http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2017/, http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2018/, http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2019/, http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2021/, http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2048/, http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%20110/, http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%20111/, https://steins-gate.fandom.com/wiki/User_blog:Zeldakasumi/World_Line_Theory,_Divergence,_Loops,_and_Kurisu%27s_Deaths_and_Salvation?oldid=9997. I think the world line is a set of possibilities on its own. When Okabe arrives in the first Alpha world line after sending the D-mail about seeing Kurisu dead, which is 0.571024%, she writes this on @channel. I haven't met anybody who holds that sort of ability, so I'm not qualified to accurately judge, but... Kyouma, you could possibly be that rare existence who holds that ability. My original world line in 2036 was calibrated to be 0%. Why this is and how they were able to calculate the existence of this world line, I know of no clue, and I bet we never will be given one, but it will be very interesting if that is discussed in Steins;Gate 0. Subject: Re: Very interesting Perhaps time traveling Suzuha exists in that point of time in the world line up til the moment that she disappears as the futures of 1.130205% and 1.048596% diverge from each other. That's the reason why there are few people who can recognize the changes in divergence. For example, if in this world line, a certain momentous incident were to occur, causing a significant change in divergence, we would be transferred to World Line B. My first post on this subreddit! > > 314 320 TITOR♦f8VuYnoyWU : 07/30/2010 18:15:19 That's true. K: "Another question." What cause the shift from R to Steins Gate is unknown. The Epsilon Attractor Field is only seen in the “Abduction Across Three Worlds” route of Steins;Gate: Linear Bounded Phenogram. About time loops and what could have happened in the very start that triggered the time traveling loop? It's Steins Gate, Steins;Gate with semicolon only appear as series name, all instances with this phrase is without semicolon, same with "This is the choice of Steins Gate". However, there is only one world line that is "active" at any given moment. It seems like everyone has a fixed idea about the concept of time itself. (Though this would give an out of WW3 without saving Kurisu, my best guess is that it can't, because there will exist another condition of the type (Kurisu is dead) & (Leskinen meets the shaman girls) that will somehow lead to WW3 My best guess is that Kurisu being alive plays the role of a janitor in the Steins Gate line. In this attractor field, while Okabe did create the time machine, it’s true nature was discovered later than in Alpha/Beta/Gamma and SERN is unaware of its existence. The Suzuha from in the Alpha Attractor Field has always been depicted as coming from the world line 0.000000%, which was subjectively given that number by the Okabe in that world line. As you can see, this obviously defies the law of conservation of energy in which Steins;Gate also ignores with world line shifts. The "R" line. He forms the lab specifically to develop the time travel technology SERN is after. Summary: The important thing to the Beta world line convergence is that Kurisu dies and her father gains the thesis and is unrestrained in reclaiming his academic glory by becoming the "Father of the Time Machine". Bazingax asked why there are not two Okabe's in the Steins;Gate world line, the one who traveled back to the past, got wounded and therefore ends up in the hospital and a hale one who originally belongs to that world line, since that is a world line where the time machine should never have been built at anytime, right? With a flick of a lever a bright light luminated the room, as he disappeared. K: "...These guys are no good. She creates a multicolored string. My own personal (completely unconfirmed) theory is that while the true endings of Chaos;Child, Robotics;Notes, and Robotics;Notes DaSH, happen on the Steins;Gate world line, all other ending routes from these games are part of the Chi Attractor Field. Steins Gate Ep 22 Steins Gate 0 Ep 08 Ending Return To Beta World Line Real Time Comparison. When the world line changes, every cause and effect is reconstructed from past to future in order to prevent paradoxes. O: "Nah, it's just like an eroge. The mail we sent into the past also disappeared from my cellphone's sent history. John Titor posted: Stein's gate holds such a significance , simply because the word, onto itself means absolutely nothing, but whatever concept it is used to describe is important. -Let's ignore the movie for now.- I am also unclear about this part. This twisted yarn is Attractor Field α. I am indeed surprised by the fact that you know about it. Of course, there is/will be a Suzuha in each of those world lines who tries to jump to the past with the Divergence Meter. A world line that the main story's "active/observing" Okabe never went to himself. I cannot tell what the value was before you changed the past. Unknown attractor field, unknown world line: "Are you ready, Okabe?". Steins Gate Visual Novel Pc Review. And, you could say that the past and present get reconstructed from the point of view of the Observer. She bundles them together and stretches them out again. M: "Ah, I see! The IBN 5100 has a hidden function: The ability to debut IBN's special proprietary computer language from before APL and BASIC. Development. K: "Then how do you observe the differences between world lines? Throughout all of Steins;Gate the time travel theory that is used is rational, but there are people that become confused by the last two episodes. One thing I try to remember is that the characters giving the explanations themselves do not know everything, so what they say can be proved wrong at the story's creator's whims. Image source: 科学ADV公式 #シュタゲ10周年 on Twitter. And, of course, that Kurisu's death is still the first domino falling in causing WWIII. 2036, the world is contaminated from nuclear warfare. So, Okabe gets back as the world line changes, but it is still a world line in which his time traveling self went back and interfered to save her and in which Mayuri and Daru were on the Radio Kaikan Building's rooftop to meet Okabe. ^^; Bazingax, wanted to know what caused Kurisu to die before Okabe tried to time travel and accidentally stabbed her -let's say at the very cause-and-effect-beginning of the time loops' forming-, right? I've confirmed that the current divergence value is 0.571015%. ;) I think that perhaps it could be the world line where another attractor field splits off from the Beta attractor field and that is why it is free from following the WWIII route. An unstable world line that is described as being separate from the Steins Gate world line by a divergence difference of 0.0000001%. Bazingax mentioned this article by the admin of the ibm5100.net wiki. In this Attractor Field, Suzuha Amane does not become Hashida Suzu and travels to 1975 or 2000. […], http://lparchive.org/SteinsGate/Update%2017/ Suzuha has traveled back and lands on the roof. To sum it up, she is talking about how she remembers her world line of 0.000000% even though she has physically traveled to 0.571015%. As opposed to Epsilon where individual personalities begin to break down, in Omega, it is personal relationships that do. Steins;Gate 0 is a visual novel, where the player reads through the story in the form of passages of text and dialogue, accompanied by character sprites and background art. So, when he receives Our Okabe's memories, the stab wound is already there. What would happen if you did? :( Anyway, I wanna throw you guys my thoughts on how Steins;Gate 0 is gonna go down! SERN is a particle physics research institution. This public announcement leads to a time travel arms race among pretty much every major power—eventually leading to a World War III that lasts for decades. S: "Exactly. "We're at the lab! In fact, the higher the divergence number, the sooner the war starts. However, unlike in that theory, the worlds are not simultaneously active. Hooray! Kurisu: "So you mean you understand the structure of the world? To change it the very "cause" has to be changed and that cannot be done by the "effect". Somewhat about this from the official book: So, I guess that answer means that no matter how she died, and even if Okabe had not witnessed Kurisu's death scene and gone on his harrowing journey through the Alpha world lines, Daru for some reason or another as an effect of convergence would end up making a time machine...? She leaves for 1975. The MWI theory states that all possibilities can and will happen, and all timelines are equally real. I suspect that the mail you sent into the past changed the world line's divergence, if just a little. GAME CHANNEL on YouTube. In this world, Okabe himself is a Rounder and Moeka’s partner. Doing that would make you no better than Titor. Suzuha takes a red yarn ball out of Mayuri's costume sewing set placed on the table. Reconstruction of the world In each attractor field, the converging result of events is different. That's right. […] So the anime Steins;Gate 0 ended without showing who are Kagari's parents? He only hears from Suzuha that he needs to go -0.081609% further. Suzuha nods clearly. If you want to supplement that explanation, then you have no choice but to believe what they say. Fans speculate that world lines close to the divergence of the Steins;Gate world line, like 1.048599 (Robotics;Notes Legacy Revival) and 1.048728 (Steins;Gate: Variant Space Octet) are also part of the Chi Attractor field. 649 Anonymous : 07/31/2010 07:25:46 Though various forms of time travel, Okabe is able to do certain things to change which path the river of time flows down. -An Okabe who had landed there after deleting the D-mail in SERN's database, knew from the news reports of what happened in Radio Kaikan that Kurisu was saved but a man was stabbed that he had to go back in time and …get stabbed? It is an attractor field where Okabe loses almost all his friendships but both Mayuri and Kurisu are alive and no World War III has started by July 2011 at the very least. You said that the world exists by the many-worlds interpretation, but I want you to tell me the basis of that. But what was in 2000...? 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